Join for FREE | Take the Tour Lost Password?

deviantART

:omfg:
 

Artists as respected professionals.

Tue Aug 11, 2009, 9:56 AM
  • Mood: Peaceful
Here's something that :iconleopreston: posted on her DA Journal today, that I thought needed to be shared by me as well. I don't know who the original author of this is, but it really impressed me. Please read:

"Every day, there are more and more Craigs List posts seeking "artists" for everything from auto graphics to comic books to corporate logo designs. More people are finding themselves in need of some form of illustrative service.

But what they're NOT doing, unfortunately, is realizing how rare someone with these particular talents can be.

To those who are "seeking artists", let me ask you; How many people do you know, personally, with the talent and skill to perform the services you need? A dozen? Five? One? …none?

More than likely, you don't know any. Otherwise, you wouldn't be posting on craigslist to find them.
And this is not really a surprise.

In this country, there are almost twice as many neurosurgeons as there are professional illustrators. There are eleven times as many certified mechanics. There are SEVENTY times as many people in the IT field.

So, given that they are less rare, and therefore less in demand, would it make sense to ask your mechanic to work on your car for free? Would you look him in the eye, with a straight face, and tell him that his compensation would be the ability to have his work shown to others as you drive down the street?

Would you offer a neurosurgeon the "opportunity" to add your name to his resume as payment for removing that pesky tumor? (Maybe you could offer him "a few bucks" for "materials". What a deal!)

Would you be able to seriously even CONSIDER offering your web hosting service the chance to have people see their work, by viewing your website, as their payment for hosting you?

If you answered "yes" to ANY of the above, you're obviously insane. If you answered "no", then kudos to you for living in the real world.

But then tell me… why would you think it is okay to live out the same, delusional, ridiculous fantasy when seeking someone whose abilities are even less in supply than these folks?

Graphic artists, illustrators, painters, etc., are skilled tradesmen. As such, to consider them as, or deal with them as, anything less than professionals fully deserving of your respect is both insulting and a bad reflection on you as a sane, reasonable person. In short, it makes you look like a twit.

A few things you need to know;

1. It is not a "great opportunity" for an artist to have his work seen on your car/'zine/website/bedroom wall, etc. It IS a "great opportunity" for YOU to have their work there.

2. It is not clever to seek a "student" or "beginner" in an attempt to get work for free. It's ignorant and insulting. They may be "students", but that does not mean they don't deserve to be paid for their hard work. You were a "student" once, too. Would you have taken that job at McDonalds with no pay, because you were learning essential job skills for the real world? Yes, your proposition it JUST as stupid.

3. The chance to have their name on something that is going to be seen by other people, whether it's one or one million, is NOT a valid enticement. Neither is the right to add that work to their "portfolio". They get to do those things ANYWAY, after being paid as they should. It's not compensation. It's their right, and it's a given.

4. Stop thinking that you're giving them some great chance to work. Once they skip over your silly ad, as they should, the next ad is usually for someone who lives in the real world, and as such, will pay them. There are far more jobs needing these skills than there are people who possess these skills.

5. Students DO need "experience". But they do NOT need to get it by giving their work away. In fact, this does not even offer them the experience they need. Anyone who will not/can not pay them is obviously the type of person or business they should be ashamed to have on their resume anyway. Do you think professional contractors list the "experience" they got while nailing down a loose step at their grandmother's house when they were seventeen?

If you your company or gig was worth listing as desired experience, it would be able to pay for the services it received. The only experience they will get doing free work for you is a lesson learned in what kinds of scrubs they should not lower themselves to deal with.

6. (This one is FOR the artists out there, please pay attention.) Some will ask you to "submit work for consideration". They may even be posing as some sort of "contest". These are almost always scams. They will take the work submitted by many artists seeking to win the "contest", or be "chosen" for the gig, and find what they like most. They will then usually have someone who works for them, or someone who works incredibly cheap because they have no originality or talent of their own, reproduce that same work, or even just make slight modifications to it, and claim it as their own. You will NOT be paid, you will NOT win the contest. The only people who win, here, are the underhanded folks who run these ads. This is speculative, or "spec", work. It's risky at best, and a complete scam at worst. I urge you to avoid it, completely. For more information on this subject, please visit [link].

So to artists/designers/illustrators looking for work, do everyone a favor, ESPECIALLY yourselves, and avoid people who do not intend to pay you. Whether they are "spec" gigs, or just some guy who wants a free mural on his living room walls. They need you. You do NOT need them.

And for those who are looking for someone to do work for free… please wake up and join the real world. The only thing you're accomplishing is to insult those with the skills you need. Get a clue.

If you do need portfolio padding, use your skills for a good cause - design a poster for a non-profit organization. Make a website for your local community theater. There are so many opportunities for pro bono work that will actually benefit someone.

Pass this on to every artistically-inclined person you know! Copy the text or just send them the link to the original post."


I absolutely, 100% agree. We artists -are- professionals. Our services are fairly rare, and for people to think that it's a privileged to do art for them -for free- are delusional. I have seen, myself, many, many times how the general populace views artists, and to them we have this talent ergo we should be spreading it around for free, or for chicken scratch. Do you know how much effort it takes to "birth" a custom piece of art for someone? I would say it takes just as much effort as fixing a car, or fixing a computer, or sometimes even surgery. It is a joy for us to do because, as artists, our art is a joy, but at the same time it takes a crapload of effort. If a mechanic loves cars and enjoys fixing them, you wouldn't dream of asking him to do anything for you for free (unless he was a friend, and even then it would be shitty of you not offer something to him for compensation for his time, materials, and effort). Why is it different for artists? I see this attitude -all the time- (and I know my fellow artists will agree), how someone will approach you to do art for them and look at you like a stunned cow when you say, okay, but it will cost you this much. Then they get all indignant like you just insulted -them- by even asking for -anything- in return. Gah!

So a big THANK YOU to everyone who treats an artist with respect, and values their skills and talent as a professional trade. As for the other 80% of the population, I hope they come across an article like this and change their thinking about artists.

Devious Comments

love 0 0 joy 2 2 wow 0 0 mad 1 1 sad 2 2 fear 0 0 neutral 0 0
:icongoldensundragon:
I totally agree with you. Just because DA is a enormous site, with a lot of artist it dosent mean that it is few of us :)

--
What dosent kill you, only makes you stronger.
:iconikioplague:
Youre so right, i found a lot of people who wanteed me to give away my work for free, sometimes you think you have to, they force you...But this time is over...Artists for dignity!!!

--
Per aspera ad astra
:icondominusdomini:
Wow. Just, wow.

--
I spell bad. I own your house and you give me rent.
:iconsilentpilgrim:
Brazil needs it. Here art haven't much value. I can't sell a piece for 25 bucks cause they think that art "don't value this much". It's awfull see how a artist can be treated here. Or you earn popularity and than respect, or your work value nothing. :(

--
Brasil. Meu Brasil brasileiro. [<o>]
:iconwargusestor:
wise words indeed - I often get my head bitten off, because I'm only self-taught and therefore have no competence as an artist at all, so no-one will ever be interested in my works.

--
- AMOR VINCIT OMNIA -

~WargusStock - support my stock

~dA-LARPers
:iconanavar:
Amen to that. Maybe I should talk about this to my dad the next time he tries to tell me that art isn't a reliable career.

--
Long ago...
there was a world...
that didn't exist until I thought of it.

Every now and then we need to be reminded why we love the things we love so much.

"Hubris, thy name is Daikini."
:iconthe-blackat:
totally agree with you ^^ I´m gonna put this in my journal too.

--
my adoptables

Avatar by xxscarletbutterflyxx
:iconikioplague:
Lolits a parents thing they want us to be save...to be an artist means to be not save...to many vultures out there

--
Per aspera ad astra
:iconprincedionysus:
I also agree 100%
I wouldn't call myself -professional- yet,
but still, people shouldn't take someone
Else's -time- for granted.

--
I need a place where I can make my bed
A lover's lap where I can rest my head
:iconblueauraspirit:
I agree 100% I suppose the term "proffesional" (please pardon my poor spelling) literally means "one who makes money from an occupation". I have made money from art, before, but I'm really struggling for buisiness. So at the momment, I'm a little less than proffesional.

I feel like artists are treated with less respect, because the common view is "oh, anyone can draw something on a piece of paper, an color it. hell, I did that in kindergarten!!"

I see that a lot, and quite frankly, my confused friend, it goes WAAAAYYYY deeper than that.

Your not just "coloring a drawing" your putting your heart, soul and thoughts into your own original coposition. You have to select each color, blend them, make sure they harmonize, and many deeper emotional things.


I was thinking about doing something for someone for free, but you have helped me realize I shouldn't degrade myself like that. Thank you.

--
:star:Commission me! good quality at cheap prices! :star:[link]


We live our lives
wandering to the ends of the earth.
Closing off
the way back,
we walk on for eternity

Journal History

Just curious here - What reaction do you have to my new piece "Moon's Gift"? 

59%
1,684 deviants said Very beautiful and romantic!
17%
473 deviants said OMFG HOT!!! DO MOARRR!!
16%
454 deviants said It's pretty, but not my cup of tea.
5%
130 deviants said I don't care either way.
2%
58 deviants said Freaks me out, yet I can't look away...
1%
32 deviants said Very creepy. Too weird for me.

Shoutbox

~Transformers-Wolf13:iconTransformers-Wolf13:
I LOVE TRANSFORMERS AND YOUR ART! Together, they shall take over the world!
Sat Nov 7, 2009, 7:23 PM
*LadyScourgE:iconLadyScourgE:
Good grief I can't even spell right :(
Tue Sep 1, 2009, 4:27 PM
*LadyScourgE:iconLadyScourgE:
I howl at the sun becaus I'll get arrested for disturbing the peace if I howl at the moon. J/K
Tue Sep 1, 2009, 4:26 PM
~ABHAYTSUKIKO:iconABHAYTSUKIKO:
GRRRRRRRRRR :D lol
Tue Sep 1, 2009, 10:09 AM
*Thunder-n-Lightning:iconThunder-n-Lightning:
Hello! :hug: I LYKE TRANSFORMERS!!! Do you? Oh BTW luv your art! ~:heart:
Wed Aug 12, 2009, 6:15 PM
=Mokuu:iconMokuu:
Quite golden : D
Tue Aug 11, 2009, 2:11 PM
~Typhun:iconTyphun:
Woof, missus.
Sat Jul 25, 2009, 7:15 AM
~Rafica:iconRafica:
AWOOOOOO!!!!!
Tue Jul 7, 2009, 7:14 PM
~Three-Tailed-Wolf:iconThree-Tailed-Wolf:
hi luv ur art!!! :aww:
Mon Jul 6, 2009, 10:54 AM
~sydniesalamander:iconsydniesalamander:
W00F
Sun Jun 28, 2009, 8:41 PM

Forum

Site Map